Verification Allahu Akbar + more

http://www.submission.org/A-AK.html

In the name of God , Most Gracious, Most Merciful 

Islam is older than the Quran. Islam (submission to God alone) has always been the religion of all God's prophets. Abraham however was given all the rituals (practices of Islam), thousands of years before even Muhammed was born. See our article, "Who founded Islam". 

During a discussion about the use of the term Allahu Akbar, some people came up with the idea that Allahu Al-kabeer may be more appropriate because the word Kabeer can be found in the Quran while the word Akbar is not. This issue has been discussed also in another article that reminded us that Salat began even before the Quran. 

The following is the main point in the discussion that took place. 

God reminds us in the Quran that; 

5:3 "...Today, I have completed your religion, perfected My blessing
upon you, and I have decreed Islam as the religion for you..." 


Islam, our religion, is perfected by GOD Almighty at the time of
Muhammad. We had made changes in our Salat  that we inherited 
from our parents because we are trying to restore it to its initial form 
known to Muhammad. Historically, we can trace those alterations to 
Salat. Here you are 2 examples: 


1. Amen: Saying "Amen" after the opening Sura is reported in
a Hadith. It was said that a companion of the prophet said "Amen" 
after Muhammad had recited the Penning Sura in the Salat. 
After finishing Salat, Muhammad, allegedly said that he saw angels 
blessing the one who said "Amen" and were hurrying up to take it to GOD. 


This Hadith and similar hadiths were introduced when  the Muslims increased 
in numbers, had converts from the Christians and Jews and thus got into closer contact
with Christians and Jews. Christians for instance do say "Amen" after
reciting the Lord's prayer which is very similar to the  Sura 1 of the Quran. 


2. Traditionally, in the the muslim world, even the Muslim scholars agree that
reciting Fatiha is Mandatory, but reciting any other sura from the Quran in Salat as
only a 'sunna'. Some of the Muslims who memorize the Quran used this idea to repeatedly
recite the Quran to improve their memory of it. 


When we accepted any changes in the Salat, we did it only after we were certain
that we are following the Quran and purifying the salat absolutely to God alone. We
had no intention to create a new religion. Islam (Submission to God alone) is the ONE 
and ONLY religion acceptable to God. It has to be kept absolutely to God ALONE.
We are only trying to purify it from all the man made additions that accumulated over 
1400 years. 


Changing "Allahu Akbar" to "Allahu Al-Kabeer" 

Those who want to change Allahu Akbar to Allahu Al Kabeer has two main reasons: 

1. GOD never qualifies Himself in Quran as Akbar, which is a fact
Akbar is not a GOD's attribute you can find in Quran, and so do the
number of prostrations (Sujud) and bowing down (Ruku) for every Salat.
We do not have any information in Quran about the Friday's ceremony
(ie.khutba) and how to do it either. The word "Akbar" however is quranic.
God used  the word "Akbar "to describe some of His qualities, See for example, 
9:72 and 40:10 


2. Based on the verse 17:46, we should use Quran Only while
preaching GOD. Do not forget that Islamic practices are older 
than Quran 

Why we do not agree with changing Allahu Akbar to Allahu Al-Kabeer. 


(1). Historically, there is not a single recorded instance where Muhammad or
muslims used to say "Allahu Al-Kabeer". Had Muhammad used "Allahu
Al-Kabeer" and in the case he was wrong, GOD would have corrected
him. Remember that GOD perfected His religion with its rituals at the
time of Muhammad. Therefore, when we change "Allahu Akbar" to "Allahu
Al-Kabeer" we are in fact creating a new thing and not restoring Salat
to its initial form. 


(2). 17:46 "...And when you preach your Lord using Quran alone..." 

Reading 17:46 in RK's translation may give you the impression that
since GOD qualifies Himself "Al-Kabeer"=the Great ,in Quran and not
"Al-Akbar'=the Greatest, means we should use "Allahu Al-Kabeer"=GOD is
the Great, instead of "Allahu Akbar"=GOD is the Greatest. 

But we have to look at the Quran in total and not stop at one verse, to get a clear 
understanding 

(3). 17:111 "...extol His greatness..." (In Arabic :"...wa kabbberhu
takbeeran..." is similar in English to: "Talk the talk and walk the 
walk"). This command can be achieved by many ways and not only by saying
"Allahu Akbar" or "Allahu Al-Kabeer". We should not restrict ourselves
to a specific formula or to say anything at all. This command could be
applied to our Salat as well as to our daily life. We say "Allahu Akbar"
in our Salat not because of this command, but because we are following
Abraham who received the Islam's rituals from GOD who said so. 



(4) 13:13 "The thunder praises His glory, and so do the angels, out of
reverence for Him.". 

17:44 "Glorifying Him are the seven universes, the earth, and everyone
in them. There is nothing that does not glorify Him, but you do not
comprehend their glorification, He is Clement, Forgiver". 


24:41 "Do you not realize that everyone in the heavens and the earth
glorifies GOD, even the birds as they fly in a column? Each knows its
prayer and its glorification. GOD is fully aware of everything they do". 


Praising GOD, extolling His greatness should not be restricted to
reciting a formula. It could be done by many other ways including
thinking of Him silently. And remember 22:37: "Neither their meat, nor
their blood reaches GOD, What reaches Him is your righteousness.". 



(5) Al-Kabeer means the Great and not the Greatest (superlative of
great). In the contrary, in Arabic, "Allahu Akbar" means GOD is greater
than anything someone can imagine or GOD is the Greatest of all things or
simply means GOD is The Greatest. 


Some people objected to using Akbar as they thought it may imply comparing 
God with someone else. Quran clarifies this issue for us by insisting on using similar 
terms to Akbar. "Allahu Akram"=GOD is the Most Generous or
"Allahu Aalam"=GOD is the Best Knower. "Ahsan Al Khaleeqeen"= the Best creator.
Therefore Akbar is not a word you cannot use for God. See what God used for 
Himself already and how He described some of His qualities as "Akbar" 



(6). 17:110 "...Call upon GOD or call upon the Most Gracious; whichever
name/attribute you use, to Him belongs the most beautiful
names/attributes.". As you can see this verse does not mean "...whichever
name/attribute MENTIONED IN QURAN you use...". On the contrary, this
verse condemns those who restrict His names/attributes to whatever they are aware of. 



(7). We may criticize those who choose "Allahu Al-Kabeer" (ie. GOD
is the Great), only for the reason that they misunderstood the Quranic 
verses mentioned above, refused to follow the clear teaching of a messenger 
who corrected the Salat for them, and for their inability to see that to God 
belongs all the beautiful names including Akbar, Ahsan, Akram,,,,etc.  
Allahu Akbar is not a distortion of GOD's attributes . This is true for the simple
reason that we can not prove that "Akbar" is  not  among GOD's most
beautiful names/attributes. We have no proof that it was not what Muhammed 
used, and it was confirmed by  messenger of the covenant, (the messenger who 
corrected every other aspect of our salat, zakat, fasting and Hajj) as the correct 
one to use. And for the weakest at heart, it is even much safer to continue to use it. 


(8). 16:98 "When you read the Quran, you shall seek refuge in GOD from
the Satan the rejected.". So, before we read Quran we say: "I seek
refuge in GOD from the Satan the rejected. 


56:96 "You shall glorify the name of your Lord, the Great (Al-Azeem).".
So, we say: "Glory to my Lord the Great" while bowing down (ruku) in
Salat and in other different places and times. 


87:1 "Glorify the name of your Lord, the Most High (Al-Alaa).". We say:
"Glory to my Lord, the Most High" in our Salat while prostrating
(sujud), and in other places and times. 


17:111 "...You shall magnify Him constantly." "...wa kabberhu takbeeran" (Arabic text). 


GOD here does not say: "...wa kabber ALLAh Al-Kabeer" (And extol GOD the
Great) in order for us to say: "Allahu Al-Kabeer". GOD does not say
either: "...wa kabber ALLAH Al-Akbar" (And extol GOD the Greatest) in
order for us to say: "Allahu Akbar". This verse obviously does not
follow the same pattern as 56:96 and 87:1 which could refer to what to
say in ruku and sujud. 



(9). God proved to us in the Quran that when He wants to change a practice 
in His great religion, He does it clearly and spells it out. He did that for fasting in 
Ramada. See 2:187 allowing sexual intercourse during the nights in Ramadan. 

Today, changing "Allahu Akbar" to "Allahu al-kabeer" does not follow the
same pattern. Had Muhammed erred he would have been corrected. Had the 
 messenger of the covenant erred he would have been corrected. clearly loudly 
and with a strong proof. 


(10). 6:78 "When he (Abraham) saw the sun rising, he said, "This must be
my Lord. This is the biggest (Akbar).". 

Abraham used the word Akbar to describe what he believed to be the Lord,
because the Lord must be the greatest. 

Abraham was the one who received the Salat rituals, and the one who
qualified what he thought the Lord as Akbar. Coincidence? 


(11) We are not worshiping Quran. We are worshipping GOD Alone using Quran
alone. You can make it to heaven if you worship GOD Alone even though you
do not use Quran. 


(12) We need to remind ourselves that we inherited the Salat rituals and those
numbers from Abraham generation after generation. We keep doing the same
numbers in our daily Salat mainly because of so. 



(13) GOD asks us to remember Him during Hajj. Of course going to Mecca
and the Hajj rituals are forms of praising, glorifying, and
commemorating Him. Muslims use a special and beautiful formula while
walking around the Ka'bah which is: "Labbayka Alaahumma Labbayka" (Here
I am my God, I have responded to You, here I am). "Labbayka Laa Shareeka
Laka Labbayk" (Here I am I have responded to You, and I proclaimed that
there is no other god besides You; here I am I have responded to You)... 

This formula is not in Quran. Should we then change it to something
else? We don't think so. 



(14) We are doing 5 Salats daily because this is what it comes to us
from Abraham, generation after generation. Now we can see four mentioned 
salat in the Quran, (three of the four by name) and also the middle prayer. There is no middle
for a four prayer, and five prayers as we inherited them is the next logical acceptable number. 



(15) The khutba (Friday's ceremony) and how to do it are not in Quran.
Should we disregard it or just do it the way we are doing now because
this is what we inherited from Abraham? confirmed by Muhammed, then 
confirmed  again by the  messenger of the covenant. 



(16). We should draw a line somewhere. Or we take the whole Salat
rituals (including the number of ruku and sujud and what to say) from
Quran, or just follow what we received from Abraham, generation after
generation, unless if there is something against the spirit of Quran
such as praising Muhammad and his family. 

(17) We had two proven incidents in the life of Islam (Submission)  where the 
rituals of Islam , including Salat, Zakat, Hajj and Fasting were corrected or approved 
as it was. One by the prophet Muhammed continuation of what Abraham was practicing, 
and the other more recently by the messenger of the covenant. God never told us to follow 
our personal opinion or the opinion of the scholars but INSIST on us following His messengers. 

God's messengers DO NOT contradict each other but confirm what was previously revealed 
by God. God never sent a messenger to correct the mistakes of another messenger. The  messenger of the covenant never corrected the prophet Muhammed but he corrected the corruption created 
by people's personal opinion after Muhammed's death. 

All these preceding reasons,  are examples of the  of many reasons to continue using
"Allahu Akbar" in our salt.. 


http://www.submission.org/God-names.html

God?s ?Beautiful Names? and attributes 


By: A. Salmawy 



Much has been written lately by some believers about the ?Asmaa Al-Hosna? or God?s beautiful names. Primarily, this group of believers are saying that God?s beautiful names are only those in the Quran, and consequently in our Salat we should use the name Allah Al-Kabeer and not the traditional Allah Akbar. The claim is that Kabeer is one of the names of God in the Quran while Akbar is not. 

They also say that only the names that are in the Quran can be used to call on God. This has been repeated by various articles mainly in the Journal of Submission. 


The purpose of this article is to demonstrate that these claims are a result of a lack of understanding of the Quran, and also to demonstrate that these believers have in fact abused and corrupted the meaning of a number of Quranic verses. 


1- In his recent article in the JOS, the author starts his article by saying: 

?Of course God is not limited to any fixed number of names and attributes? ?? 

but soon enough he contradicts himself by saying: 

???and therefore the only valid conclusion must be that God has stated ALL these names in the Quran? !!!! 

How can he claim that God is not limited to a fixed number of names and then conclude that all these names are in the Quran??? 


To arrive at this paradoxical conclusion he abuses the meaning of a clear Quranic truth, that being that the Quran is complete and fully detailed. He states that since the Quran is complete and fully detailed then, and in his own words, he says: 

?these names must be in the Quran, it can?t be otherwise?. 


The corruption in the meaning of the completeness and detail of the Quran stems from the fact that the Quran is complete and fully detailed regarding all the Law of God that we must follow for our salvation. The Quran is not fully detailed when it comes to demonstrating God?s greatness or attributes. This is simply because God?s attributes and greatness is infinite, it cannot be contained in a book. 

It is ironic that the author refers to verses such as 6:103, 42:11 and 112:4 that demonstrate that it is beyond the human being to comprehend the greatness of God, then he insists that we should limit our understanding of God?s attributes to the names that are mentioned in the Quran !!!! 

There is no doubt that God?s attributes are a thousand million more than those included in the Quran, and which are mentioned in the way of a sample. Some of these untold attributes we may be able to understand and a million others beyond our comprehension. 


2- Another Quranic truth that has been abused by these writers is 112:4. This glorious verse asserts that nothing can be compared to God. From this truth they have arrived at a corrupted deduction stating that only superlative adjectives may be associated with God?s name and not any comparative adjectives. As a result they claim that the superlative ?Al-Kabeer? (The Great) is the correct name to be used in our Salat and not the comparative ?Akbar? (Greater). 

Sadly, and by making such a claim they have shown their total ignorance with the Quran. 

First, they have shown their ignorance to the fact that in the Quran God compares Himself to other things. 

On the one hand, God uses the superlative name ?Qareeb? (near) for Himself. This is found in 2:186, 11:61, and 34:50. In these verses there is no comparison between God and others. 

However, if we read 50:16: 

"We created the human, and We know what he whispers to himself. We are nearer to him than his jugular vein." 

In this verse, God uses the comparative (nearer) to describe His position in comparison with the nearness of the jugular vein. 

The same word ?Aqrab? (nearer), which is the comparative form of ?Qareeb? (near) is also used in 56:85. 

Other verses where God speaks of Himself in the comparative mode are: 

- ?Best Provider? 5:114, 22:85, 23:72, 34:39, and 62:11 

- ?Best Supporter? 3:150 

- ?Best Schemer? 3:54 

- ?Best Judge? 7:87,10:109, 12:80, 6:57 

- ?Most Accurate Reckoner? 6:62 

- ?Best Forgiver? 7:155 


All these comparisons in actual fact demonstrate the true meaning of 112:4 and which they have failed to understand. 

The meaning of the words ?nothing can be compared to God? (112:4), does not mean that if one compares anything to God one is inevitably thrown into hell???..after all God draws many comparisons as was shown, it simply means that in any comparison, God will always be the triumphant. 


You can make a million comparisons, day and night, but in every one the name of God will emerge as the clear victor. That is the meaning of 112:4. 


3- The next important matter that has been put forward to them, and which they have never been able to provide a convincing answer to, is the following: 


The Student of the Quran will be able to witness the difference between two types of Quranic commandments: 


Command #1 


"Glorify the name of your LORD, THE MOST HIGH" 87:1 


"You shall glorify the name of your Lord, THE GREAT" 56:74 


Command #2 


"Extol (magnify) your Lord" 74:3, 17:111 and others. 


In command 1, God commands us to use SPECIFIC NAMES (The Most High and the Great). 


However, in command 2, NO SPECIFIC name is indicated. 

In command 1 God is telling us to use specific names, however in command 2 God is saying MAGNIFY the Lord, to magnify anything you make it larger. Hence, if you magnify KABEER (Great) you make it AKBAR (Greater). 


If God wants us to use the word Al-KABEER, He would have specifically told us so, in the same way He told us to use the names THE MOST HIGH as in 87:1, or THE GREAT as in 56:74. 

The command in 17:111 is to magnify or make larger???.AKBAR is greater than KABEER. 

For that issue they have no answer. 


4- Again, they still have not provided a clear explanation to the fact that the command to magnify the Lord is pre-Quranic??..it appears in the Old Testament and the oldest books of Jewish prayers. 


If calling upon God can ONLY be done by using the names mentioned in the Quran only, then we must conclude that before the revelation of the Quran (1400 years ago) it was not possible for believers to call upon God by any names !! 


It is expected that someone may claim that the specific command to magnify or extol God is a Quranic command and must be executed using Quranic words and names from the Quran. That is wrong too! The command to magnify God has appeared in the older scripture dating back to the Torah and probably before. One of the Prayer books that lists prayers from as far back as the days of Jacob or before show that the reader in the morning service takes the scroll of the Law and says: 


"Magnify the Lord with me, and let us exalt His name together" 

(The Authorised Daily book of Prayer, 25th edition, Eyreand Spottiswoode ltd., 1957, page 66) 


The command of God to the people of Israel to magnify His name is obviously pre-Quranic. 


The Jews had no Quran to extract God?s names from, however they were still obeying God and magnifying His name without having to wait for the names that would appear in the Quran centuries later.! 


5- Verse 7:180 commands us to call God by the beautiful names. It DOES NOT say that these beautiful names are ONLY in the Quran. To insist on that is but a corruption of the meaning of the verse, as this would add the word ONLY to 7:180. To add or subtract one word to the meaning of any Quranic verse is a corruption. 


A well known example of a similar corruption of the meaning of the Quran by adding one word, is what we witnessed in the corruption of the meaning of 39:45. 

"When God alone is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter shrink with aversion. But when others are mentioned besides Him, they become satisfied." 


The corrupt interpreters added the word (gods) after the word "others" to make it [??.but when other (gods) are mentioned besides Him?..] instead if using the word others by itself as per the original Quran. 


The attempt to limit the Beautiful names of God in 7:180 to ONLY to those in the Quran is a similar corruption to the one given above, and which changed the meaning drastically by adding the word ONLY to the text. To impose a limitation to the meaning of a Quranic verse, and which does not exist in God?s words, is a grave corruption and is a man-made innovation . 


Surely if God wants to indicate that ONLY the beautiful names of the Quran are the ones to be used, He would have specifically said so. 

To God belongs all the beautiful names in all languages, 

all scriptures, 

and at all time. 



God be praised

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